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Post by gwensafari on May 7, 2014 10:58:29 GMT
restoring a 1979 12-2 just taken all the rooflights off for repaint and found that the plastic surrounds with wooden battens inside are crumbled beyond rescue. has anyone got any spare. thought from memory that older models had an aluminium version. do these fit the 1979 does anyone know and has anyone got any spare. may be able to bodge of not by just mounting the windows closer to the caravan roof. but the seams may be a problem and i will have a lot of screwholes to fill where the old screws went. any tips on filling screwholes?
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Post by gwensafari on May 7, 2014 12:29:37 GMT
Can't work out how to add photos. Any tips
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Post by Brian M on May 8, 2014 7:22:49 GMT
Here is a link to the post giving photo instructions link
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Post by Brian M on May 8, 2014 7:29:31 GMT
Regarding the window surrounds. The original "hard" plastic surrounds are impossible to remove without cracking them. I have tried using the flexible plastic trim that is used on the large opening windows, but it does not bend very well at the ends of the top windows but does look better than nothing. I have stocks of the trim. I have also seen a Safari where the edges were covered with "hockey stick" wood mouldings, but they had squared off the ends of the openings on the inside so this had to be done when the frame was being replaced. I am in the process of breaking a 12-2 and will check later today on the condition of the surrounds on it.
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Post by gwensafari on May 8, 2014 16:48:17 GMT
thanks for that brian. safari project got put on hold for a while but its back on now. still need to get back to you about the trim inlay. pretty much need a full set. what ive taken out is very cracked and sad for some reason.
great to hear you are breaking a 12-2 there are a few little bits i need. will get back to you with a list. nothing major.
with the windows i am talking about the plastic trims on the small windows on the central raised bit that have a wooden batten down the inside and hold the windows about 15mm away from the the outside of the roof. wasnt sure you were talking about the same bits because there is no way these can be part of the frame. the inside parts are broken too bit i will replace these with lengths of standard window trim
will post some photos in a bit.
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Post by Brian M on May 17, 2014 9:19:59 GMT
Gwen - Really need some pictures to fully understand the bits you need but I have just heard of a new supplier of the white plastic bits that go on the inside of the roof vents.
These will be fibreglass mouldings and so will not be as brittle as the original covers.
If it is the metal frame on the outside, I have stocks of these.
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Post by gwensafari on Jul 3, 2014 16:09:32 GMT
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Post by gwensafari on Jul 3, 2014 16:20:34 GMT
sorry for the massive delay in getting back to you again. have been very distracted by my new baby. back on sorting out this caravan now tho so will get together a list of what i am after in the next day or so. its finally at the putting back together stage after one of those can of worms rebuilds where the job just keeps getting bigger and bigger. (looked pretty tidy when we got it apart from the green barn paint) have had the front and back off to rebuild the timber frames (luckly sides were in good nic) and now full bare metal resprayed. just got trims and insides to sort out now. [img src=" i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a572/bwensafari/IMG_20140507_150602_zps7675c6a3.jpg" alt="" src="" style="max-width:100%;"] [img src=" i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a572/bwensafari/IMG_20140703_162443_1_zps7746e714.jpg" alt="" src="" style="max-width:100%;"]
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Post by gwensafari on Jul 3, 2014 16:23:41 GMT
this time maybe
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Post by gwensafari on Jul 3, 2014 16:24:51 GMT
good as new ... sort of
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Post by gwensafari on Jul 3, 2014 16:27:25 GMT
oops also need one of these bits that hold the wheel arches in place
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Post by gwensafari on Jul 4, 2014 21:39:21 GMT
did a bit of research today and went to look at a friends 12-2 (1976) and found that the bits of plastic mountings around the top windows that have crumbled on mine are metal (aluminium i think) on his . but only the inner 4 rooflights have the metal surround. this was the same on mine with the plastic surrounds but i had assumed the outer ones has crumbled and been removed and the windows mounted flush to the roof instead. looks like they were supposed to be this was anyway.
so i now understand why there was confusion as to what bits i was after.
brian- if you have four of these aluminium window mountings that would be ideal.
thanks.
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Post by Brian M on Jul 4, 2014 22:39:14 GMT
I am currently dismantling a damp Safari and will take off all the bits relating to the top windows to see if any of the bits are those you require.
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Post by gwensafari on Jul 5, 2014 9:04:42 GMT
here is a pic of the rooflight surrounds on the '76 they appear to be the same shape as on mine but are aluminium so have obviously lasted better.
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Post by gwensafari on Jul 5, 2014 9:18:55 GMT
brian- also i now have the measurements of the trim inlay (black pvc rubber stuff as discussed with you in a previous post) you said you had it in stock. there was very little of it left on the van and what was there was perrished so it is a complete new set im after i need 39m of the narrow (around 10mm) stuff that goes in the stripe trim inlay and i need 24m of the wider (around 12mm) stuff that goes around the fixed windows and door frames. was suprised how much this added up to in the end so i rechecked it and got the same answer but there is loads of trims i suppose. as well as the one wheel spat trim and the 4 rooflight windo trims. thanks again for all your help and for the forum that has been a huge help with this build. coming on nicely now...
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