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Post by henry on Apr 17, 2013 19:08:01 GMT
I got this lovely 1974 17/2 in for restoration today it has been loved and looked after very well over the years there is little sign of the usual caravan botch jobs The owner has asked me to sort out the damp issues in the front and back so both ends will be coming off along with every other piece of trim the door needs to be taken apart and rebuilt and while this is happening it will quite probably be repainted we need advice on where to find the proper wall covering for the interior front walls as its not paper more of a plastic covering I don't think it is like modern wall board as in it comes ready covered pretty sure it went on after the wall was built Also need advice on the factory paint code or name as the owner wants it to be as original as possible The owner is a member of the forum I will leave it up to him to decide if he wants to make himself known Im quite exited about this so decided to spend a bit of time taking apart the front
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 22:49:27 GMT
Hello there,
Looks like your getting stuck in!!
Wallboards: the same as modern wall boards but your not going to get the same colour, I searched for hours.. The pattern your looking for is called Hupa or Aztec - available from magnum motorhomes which was the cheapest place I found hut that was more a magnolia colour - the ceiling boards are also available from here and so are shower room boards.
Your looking at £20 minimum per board plus delivery and most are 4x8m...
I couldn't find the colour or texture I wanted so I went ahead and plywood sheeted the walls and then wallpapered.
To save costs safari used the hupa wallboards in the bathroom and wallpapered the reverse side.
As for the colour if you could advise me of the colour that would be much appreciated.
Regards - Chris.
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Post by henry on Apr 20, 2013 8:10:30 GMT
Hi Chris Thanks for your suggestions The original board is hardboard on this not ply I was quite amazed by this but looks to be a lot better quality hardboard than the stuff you get today I deal with o'lary motor homes so I will order 2 or 3 different types of coated board including the Aztek to see if any come close Plan b will be to take a sample to find a good match in the wallpaper shops and plan c I have a friend who deals with vinyl wrap who may be able to copy it for us if at that fails we still have the original covering the owner carefully removed I will let you know the details of what we end up doing The owner found these yesterday may be very usefull to sombody they are exatly the same as the trims on our safaris right down to the convex base for the sealant to go in www.woolies-trim.co.uk/c-113-aluminium-sections.aspx
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Post by Brian M on Apr 21, 2013 6:44:06 GMT
The owner is a member of the forum I will leave it up to him to decide if he wants to make himself known The Owner is James "B16JLE" and he has told me he has no objection to being known as your customer.
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Post by henry on Apr 22, 2013 22:18:51 GMT
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Post by henry on Apr 25, 2013 15:07:01 GMT
Not many photos today my battery died I have replaced the lip that carries the sun visor and the peice behind it that goes abouve the celing board toward the curtain rail screen I managed to get that out and leave the celing board in place so just slotted a new piece in there the very end of the off side bottom window frame was gone so spliced another peice of timber in there as well as the corner bit the corner of the floor on the offside was gone so that has been replaced I peeled back the floor covering and then used contact adhesive to stick it back down both sides the window frame nearest the front window have been replaced as well as the timber at the side of the floor that the bottom of the side aluminium skin screws in to at the bottom So them theres solid ground to work from the front is basicly four sections that screw together the bottom pannel that the stoneguard covers the curved pannel under the window the window frame itself and the interior shelf The vaneer off the shelf I have peeled off and will be re using on the new shelf In these photos I have mocked it all up apart from the middle section to make sure it will all fit together properly
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 22:10:01 GMT
Looks ace, i may want to hire your skills!! I am passing Cumbria on the way to Killin on Tuesday to collect a Safari!
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Post by henry on Apr 26, 2013 8:44:35 GMT
Great stuff chris the more the merrier you should bob in for a cuppa tea anyway
Give me a ring
Gary
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Post by henry on Apr 30, 2013 20:43:09 GMT
This is the new shelf it has A 15 degree edge on the back and a 15 degree edge on the underneath bit that picks up the wallboard I peeled the vaneer off the old shelf and sanded off the debris with 280 sandpaper then smeared pva wood glue all over sanwiched it between 2 thick boards clamped it all up and left it over night The front is all screwed together top pannels back on waiting for the curvy hardboard to be rolled as I dont have a roller I need to take the cabinet and bed boxes out again to cover the walls
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Post by henry on Apr 30, 2013 20:47:16 GMT
I am now on with the back end will have it apart tomorrow
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Post by henry on May 1, 2013 20:57:39 GMT
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Post by b16jle on May 1, 2013 21:58:54 GMT
Hi Gary You seem to be doing a very good job of my van keep up the good work..........James
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 22:28:58 GMT
Looks scary!!!! Good job though mate!!
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Post by scottyfalmouth on May 2, 2013 6:34:52 GMT
Cycling job. Can I also ask some advice? Whilst washing the roof of my van I found a clean puncture hole going all the way through the metal. It's about half the size of my little finger. Only had the van for a month and it must have been there before. Anyhow just wondering your thoughts on repair. I have done a temp job but want a proper fix. I was thinking of putting a load of sealent in there and then a rivet using rivet gun. If needed then some filler before the roof gets sprayed in the winter. Any thoughts gratefully received. Keep up the good work and updates. Look forward to daily reports. Regards Scott
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Post by scottyfalmouth on May 2, 2013 6:37:32 GMT
Supposed to be cracking job. Not cycling. Sorry. Stupid phone.
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Post by henry on May 2, 2013 21:15:20 GMT
Cycling job. Can I also ask some advice? Whilst washing the roof of my van I found a clean puncture hole going all the way through the metal. It's about half the size of my little finger. Only had the van for a month and it must have been there before. Anyhow just wondering your thoughts on repair. I have done a temp job but want a proper fix. I was thinking of putting a load of sealent in there and then a rivet using rivet gun. If needed then some filler before the roof gets sprayed in the winter. Any thoughts gratefully received. Keep up the good work and updates. Look forward to daily reports. Regards Scott Hi Scotty If you want the repair to be invisible I would use this compare.ebay.co.uk/like/370807972099?_lwgsi=y<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=64&ff19=0Its a liquid metal filler that will never ever fall out I have some in the workshop its real magic stuff but I dont think you would want to spend that much on a little hole in the roof so get a tube of tiger seal £5 from your local motor factors and a small disc of aluminium fill the hole with tigerseal and put the disk over it dont use rivets as they need holes holes are bad
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Post by henry on May 2, 2013 21:20:29 GMT
Today I took the trims off the nearside just got the door to take out then it will be off with the other quarter pannel to see what the damage is
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Post by henry on May 2, 2013 21:27:19 GMT
Hi Gary You seem to be doing a very good job of my van keep up the good work..........James Cheers James I'm glad you decided it deserved a second chance its gonna be a stunner when its back together
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Post by henry on May 2, 2013 21:29:42 GMT
Looks scary!!!! Good job though mate!! When you bringing yours Chris??
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Post by scottyfalmouth on May 2, 2013 21:50:02 GMT
Hi Henry. Thanks for the tip I shall try to get my hands on some. Unfortunetly there is a hole. It's has gone all the way through the skin. Do you still recommend the way you suggested. Sorry to hijack your thread. Scott
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Post by henry on May 2, 2013 22:07:02 GMT
Scott the tiger seal will be fine to permanently plug a half inch hole just remember cover it with the ally and its black so be ready with the white spirit on a cloth to clean up any mess
it drys like real tough rubber and grips extremely well
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Post by Brian M on May 3, 2013 5:33:48 GMT
Scott I delayed a reply because I knew Gary would know the best method, but I second his comment not to use rivets. It is always bad practice to put more holes into a caravan skin. If Gary recommends this product I'll bet it is the answer.
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Post by scottyfalmouth on May 3, 2013 11:52:48 GMT
Perfect thanks guys. I shall get a couple tubes as I want to do seams this winter. Thanks again
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Post by henry on May 3, 2013 15:34:11 GMT
Perfect thanks guys. I shall get a couple tubes as I want to do seams this winter. Thanks again Scott Do not use tiger seal to resal your caravan use non drying bedding sealant I will show exactly what to use and how to do it in this thread if you need advice feel free to send me a message or give me a ring Gary
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Post by henry on May 7, 2013 19:11:14 GMT
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Post by henry on May 7, 2013 19:35:21 GMT
Oh forgot to say Normans coming back tomorrow to blast the a frame
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Post by henry on May 8, 2013 21:28:43 GMT
Today was frustrating I had planned to get all the timber replaced that needed replacing that did not happen all I got done is cut all the curves for the bottom half of the back pannel and half put it together I got a new inner wall on at least but still not right impressive I was there 12 hours and got 3 hours work done part of this was the safari had to go outside for a bit so the a frame could get blasted Got timber delivered took the back bottom to solid wood to build off cut the new curves out new board in and roughly clamped together
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Post by henry on May 10, 2013 21:18:08 GMT
Ive been held up by a swollen painful knee but almost there with the repairs The kitchen ceiling has been repaired in the past from the inside and quite poorly some timber was replaced but not helt in to anything so really the frame has been chopped in half at the back so has made it rot faster The poor repair has been covered up with spray foam and plaster The Top of the window frame was totally and utterly gone it was almost soil there was some bits left from in the bathroom that I could see how it was made it turns out its pretty much the same as the shelf under the front and back windows just upside down again theres a 15 degree edge on it just the other way round to fix the celing board to then that gets a wooden trim over it The roof skirt fell in to a million peices but I had kept the front one to use as a template This is the old repair just hanging there not fixed to the back Because theres quite a lot to replace in this area I have been doing it bit by bit carefully cutting out a peice copy it put it back then move on to the next so that it goes together properly
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Post by henry on May 14, 2013 16:08:12 GMT
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Post by henry on May 16, 2013 18:34:48 GMT
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